Hi Matthias,
Question regarding 4.x and controller log compaction / snapshotting
facilities. As far as I understand KIP-630
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-630%3A+Kafka+Raft+Snapshot>
is
still open and being worked on. There is still no mechanism in kraft kafka
4.x to compact and snapshot controller metadata logs. Is there any concern
that these logs will grow quickly enough in a large, busy, cluster to
impact disk usage or controller startup times?
Thanks!
ttyl
Dima
On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 1:47 PM Matthias J. Sax <mjsax@apache.org> wrote:
> Yes, we recently did 3.9.2 release, because the move to 4.x (which is
> the first version w/o ZK) is a somewhat larger step for some users.
>
> At this point, it's unclear if there will be 3.9.3 release or not. But
> as more time progresses, and we get new releases 4.3, 4.4 out, the
> probability for a 3.9.3 release decreases.
>
> I would highly encourage users to make the step off 3.x and onto 4.x.
>
> HTH,
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 3/23/26 9:12 AM, Doug Whitfield via users wrote:
> > I notice 3.9 is still listed as supported at
> https://kafka.apache.org/community/downloads/
> >
> > Do we have any thoughts on whether there will be a 3.9.3?
> >
> > From: Matthias J. Sax <mjsax@apache.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, 25 November 2025 at 11:28
> > To: users@kafka.apache.org <users@kafka.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Trying to gauge the eol for Kafka 3.9.1. Please help.
> >
> > Cf
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> ?
> >
> > In general, we maintain 3 versions, so with AK 4.2 release, 3.9.x would
> > actually hit EOL.
> >
> > Given that 4.0 is a major change with ZK removal in favor of KRaft, it
> > will most likely be maintained a little longer though. We are currently
> > discussing a 3.9.2 bug-fix release.
> >
> > But it will depend on overall community demand, if their will be a 3.9.3
> > bug-fix release or not. In general, I would not expect 3.9.x to be
> > maintained too much longer, and migrating off ZK, and to upgrade to 4.x
> > is highly recommended.
> >
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> >
> > On 11/24/25 9:15 PM, Ranjan, Ravi via users wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Trying to gauge the eol for Kafka 3.9.1. I could figure out dates for
> Kafka 3.9 https://endoflife.date/apache-kafka but not for 3.9.1 Please
> help.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Ravi Ranjan
> >>
> >> Senior Manager, Blue Plant Systems Design Architecture | Ciena
> >>
> >> Gurgaon, Haryana
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Question regarding 4.x and controller log compaction / snapshotting
facilities. As far as I understand KIP-630
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-630%3A+Kafka+Raft+Snapshot>
is
still open and being worked on. There is still no mechanism in kraft kafka
4.x to compact and snapshot controller metadata logs. Is there any concern
that these logs will grow quickly enough in a large, busy, cluster to
impact disk usage or controller startup times?
Thanks!
ttyl
Dima
On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 1:47 PM Matthias J. Sax <mjsax@apache.org> wrote:
> Yes, we recently did 3.9.2 release, because the move to 4.x (which is
> the first version w/o ZK) is a somewhat larger step for some users.
>
> At this point, it's unclear if there will be 3.9.3 release or not. But
> as more time progresses, and we get new releases 4.3, 4.4 out, the
> probability for a 3.9.3 release decreases.
>
> I would highly encourage users to make the step off 3.x and onto 4.x.
>
> HTH,
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 3/23/26 9:12 AM, Doug Whitfield via users wrote:
> > I notice 3.9 is still listed as supported at
> https://kafka.apache.org/community/downloads/
> >
> > Do we have any thoughts on whether there will be a 3.9.3?
> >
> > From: Matthias J. Sax <mjsax@apache.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, 25 November 2025 at 11:28
> > To: users@kafka.apache.org <users@kafka.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Trying to gauge the eol for Kafka 3.9.1. Please help.
> >
> > Cf
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> ?
> >
> > In general, we maintain 3 versions, so with AK 4.2 release, 3.9.x would
> > actually hit EOL.
> >
> > Given that 4.0 is a major change with ZK removal in favor of KRaft, it
> > will most likely be maintained a little longer though. We are currently
> > discussing a 3.9.2 bug-fix release.
> >
> > But it will depend on overall community demand, if their will be a 3.9.3
> > bug-fix release or not. In general, I would not expect 3.9.x to be
> > maintained too much longer, and migrating off ZK, and to upgrade to 4.x
> > is highly recommended.
> >
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> >
> > On 11/24/25 9:15 PM, Ranjan, Ravi via users wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Trying to gauge the eol for Kafka 3.9.1. I could figure out dates for
> Kafka 3.9 https://endoflife.date/apache-kafka but not for 3.9.1 Please
> help.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Ravi Ranjan
> >>
> >> Senior Manager, Blue Plant Systems Design Architecture | Ciena
> >>
> >> Gurgaon, Haryana
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
> click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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